So where does Sir Keir Starmer's ferocious attack on Nigel Farage rank among the great party conference speeches by Labour leaders?
One former minister told Sky News Sir Keir's claim that Mr Farage "hates Britain" was right up there with Neil Kinnock's blistering assault on the Militant Tendency almost exactly 40 years ago.
In Bournemouth, on 1 October 1985, denouncing Derek Hatton's Liverpool Militants, Mr Kinnock famously declared: "I'll tell you what happens with impossible promises.
"You start with far-fetched resolutions. They are then pickled into a rigid dogma, a code, and you go through the years sticking to that, outdated, misplaced, irrelevant to the real needs.
"And you end up in the grotesque chaos of a Labour council - a Labour council - hiring taxis to scuttle rou