Marc Maron interviewed former president Barack Obama on the 1,686th and final episode of his pioneering “WTF” podcast.

Obama was previously a guest on the show while still in office in 2015, marking a milestone for “WTF” and helping legitimize podcasts in general as a political platform. A decade ago, Obama recorded the interview in Maron’s garage in Los Angeles; for the final episode of the podcast, Maron traveled to his office in Washington, D.C.

“First of all, congratulations. Second of all, I’m honored to be on your last show,” Obama said, then asking Maron how he is feeling about moving on from a “defining” part of his career and life.

“I feel OK. I feel like I’m sort of ready for the break,” Maron said. “But there is sort of a fear of: ‘What do I do now?'”

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