Former President Barack Obama blasted President Donald Trump for his deployment of National Guard troops to deter crime in U.S. cities.

Obama said on Marc Maron’s “WTF Podcast” that the U.S.’s “institutional guardrails” have been “weakened” under the Trump administration. He also criticized Trump for deploying the National Guard to Democratic-led cities despite pushback from state leaders.

“I think there is no doubt that a lot of the norms, civic habits, expectations, institutional guardrails that we had, that we took for granted, for our democracy have been weakened deliberately,” Obama said on Monday’s episode. “I don’t think they’re destroyed, but I think they have been damaged and it’s and they’ve been systematic about it.”

“It wasn’t controversial for me to go to other coun

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