There is bold and brave talk and there is wishful thinking.

And after a humbling start through two misereable games of the ALCS, we’re about to find out where this Blue Jays team lands on that scale.

It would be a mistake to say that if the Jays fall to the Mariners in the best-of-seven series that their season is a complete disaster and disappointment. You don’t go from last-to-first in the division without some significant positives happening along the way.

But it certainly would be a thud of an ending if the series doesn’t return to Toronto for at least a Game 6. Through the first two games, played over the holiday weekend in Toronto, the Jays’ flaws have been meticulously exposed by a confident Mariners team, a group that so far anyway is a significantly stouter opponent that the

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