As the federal government shutdown drags on, House Speaker Mike Johnson does not appear motivated to use his uniquely powerful position to resolve the crisis. Nor does he seem inclined to swear in Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva who recently won a special election. Grijalva and Rep. Robert Garcia talk with Jen Psaki about how Mike Johnson's political games are hurting Grijalva's constituents in Arizona and why the only real reason for Johnson's delay is to hold off a vote on a discharge petition to force a vote on releasing the Epstein investigation files.

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