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Torie Bosch: Former acting CDC director Rich Besser is worried. When public health is working, no one notices. When it’s not working, people die. And Besser doesn’t think the current CDC is working.

Welcome to the “First Opinion Podcast.” I’m Torie Bosch, editor of First Opinion. First Opinion is STAT’s home for big, bold ideas from health care provide

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