Marc Maron podcasted so Joe Rogan could make a quarter-of-a-billion dollars from Spotify and sway an election. Maybe that’s an oversimplification. But both of them helped define podcasting, a medium increasingly setting the standards for political discourse.

Maron started his podcast as a last-ditch attempt at career stability. After being let go by progressive talk network Air America, Maron started “WTF with Marc Maron” in September 2009, three months before Rogan started “The Joe Rogan Experience.”

Both hosts interviewed, or at least held court, with politicians, Maron most famously with President Barack Obama in 2015 and Rogan with former president and then-candidate Donald Trump in 2024.

Maron decided to end his podcast in the summer of 2025 and did so on Oct. 13, with Obama making

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