When a clip of Vice President JD Vance embracing Erika Kirk at a Turning Point USA event began circulating online, it quickly turned into one of the week’s most talked-about moments.

Some saw the hug as a gesture of close emotional support, while others saw it as a sign that the VP and the Turning Point USA CEO were in an intimate relationship. Now, body language experts have weighed in on the matter, proving some much-needed context on the pair’s controversial interaction.

Body language experts stated that Erika Kirk and JD Vance’s hug showed that they were comfortable with each other

In the viral video, Erika Kirk, the widow of slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk, hugged Vance tightly as they met onstage at the University of Mississippi.

At one point, she placed her hand in his

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