Michelle Obama has again objected to President Donald Trump’s now-under-construction White House ballroom project, linking the demolition of the East Wing to her larger argument that the first lady’s workspace historically has had a defined function and civic meaning.

Michelle Obama’s remarks came during a live taping of her podcast in Brooklyn, reported by the New York Times , which noted that her quoted language was credited to Vanity Fair . The former first lady framed the East Wing as central to the portfolio first ladies traditionally take on.

“When we talk about the East Wing, it is the heart of the work” of a first lady, Obama stated . “And to denigrate it, to tear it down, to pretend like it doesn’t matter — it’s a reflection of how you think of that role.”

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