World-class historian and Hoover Institution senior fellow Victor Davis Hanson joins Jillian Michaels on her podcast.

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: Jesus the Magician was written by a scholar at Columbia that showed that, I don't necessarily agree with his thesis, but there were a lot of people that were traveling magicians and Christ was the best one, and that also bothered the Romans, and he was able to create mass populist sermon on the mount and stuff.

JILLIAN MICHAELS, HOST: And then the message, you've got to remember that the message to— I thought we didn't even know this guy, this is going to infuriate people and I'm so sorry and I stay out of it, but I thought we weren't even really sure whether or not Jesus existed and the apostles wrote this stuff hundreds of years ago.

HANSON: The Ro

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