Turns out, Michelle Obama is a Bravo super fan.

In the latest episode of IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson—a podcast from the Obamas’ production company, Higher Ground—the former first lady revealed her love for reality TV. Specifically, The Real Housewives franchise.

The topic came up during a conversation with guests Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers, co-hosts of the pop culture podcast Las Culturistas.

“This is where I want to educate my brother and even my husband, who will be listening,” Obama said. “Culture is king. They razz me about my love of reality TV and The Real Housewives, but I watch it all.”

When Yang and Rogers asked Obama to name her current favorites, she gave one rather surprising answer: Next Gen NYC.

For those who haven’t seen it yet, Next Gen NYC follows the l

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