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Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy appeared on the New York Post's "Pod Force One" podcast on Wednesday where he opened up about an earlier spat between him and former Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) head Elon Musk .

According to Duffy, the two had "a little back and forth" after Musk proposed the firing of "safety-critical positions," including air traffic controllers, which was a red line for the transportation secretary.

"I think it might not have been intentional, might have been ham-handed by some of the requests that were made by DOGE, but my position was, we are not going to fire air traffic controllers," Duffy told the Post's Miranda Devine.

The secretary explained that the conversation took place be

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