Taylor Swift finally made her debut on Travis and Jason Kelce’s New Heights podcast after two years of dating the Kansas City Chiefs tight end on Wednesday (Aug. 13), making for a sprawling conversation about life, love, new music, sourdough bread and more.

Undoubtedly the biggest topic covered on the show was The Life of a Showgirl, Swift’s 12th studio album arriving Oct. 3. After revealing the LP’s existence and title via a New Heights teaser clip the day prior to the episode’s premiere, the 14-time Grammy winner divulged more details about the Max Martin- and Shellback-produced full-length — which features a Sabrina Carpenter duet — while speaking with the Kelce brothers.

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