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When Taylor Swift joined Travis Kelce and Jason Kelce on their " New Heights" podcast on Aug. 13, it wasn't just another celebrity interview . . . it was a relationship milestone. Yes, it was the first podcast Taylor has ever appeared on, but it was also the first time Swifties got an unfiltered look at her relationship with Travis outside of paparazzi photos and Kansas City Chiefs games .

Sitting next to each other, the couple talked about everything from her Eras Tour and buying her masters to granny hobbies and Travis's oddly passionate love for otters. But surprisingly, what Taylor and Travis talked about was the least interesting part of the podcast episode. The way they interacted with each other — the touching, the te

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