David Marquet was formerly captain of the nuclear submarine USS Santa Fe and is the best-selling author of Turn the Ship Around, which tells the story of transforming that submarine from the worst-performing to the best-performing sub in the fleet. Since retiring from the Navy, he has worked with businesses globally as a leadership consultant.

Mike Gillespie is an associate professor of psychology at the University of South Florida who studies how to make organizations more effective. He teaches organizational psychology and directs the Human Applied Cognition and Decision-Making Lab.

What’s the big idea?

Great leaders have a superpower that lets them remove many of their biases, see reality more clearly, and make better decisions: distance. By distancing themselves from situations alon

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