Border czar Tom Homan got into a heated exchange with MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski on Morning Joe Tuesday, pushing back against accusations that Immigration and Customs Enforcement had “disappeared” people during immigration enforcement actions.

The fiery interview began when Brzezinski pressed Homan about whether immigrants with jobs, driver’s licenses, and children serving in the United States military should be treated as criminals if they lack legal status.

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Homan emphasized that “if they’re in the country il

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