Andrew Piskadlo was standing in the middle of a campus amphitheater Wednesday, waiting to debate Charlie Kirk about the Eighth Amendment, when a single deadly shot rang out.

“It was surprising, and no one really got down until the people in front of the stage did,” Piskadlo, 28, of Salt Lake City, said in a phone interview. “People got down in waves.”

He had been in line at a campus event at Utah Valley University in Orem, waiting to speak to and debate Kirk, as students typically do in the so-called “Prove Me Wrong” debates that Kirk, a right-wing activist, hosted.

Piskadlo, who estimated that he was about 80 feet away, recalled that Kirk had been responding to a question about transgender mass shooting suspects at some point before he was shot.

When the shot rang out, he said he drop

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