In a conversation with Tim Alberta at The Atlantic Festival, former Vice President Mike Pence discussed his conservatism, the state of free speech on the right, and his relationship with President Donald Trump.

Alberta asked Pence about ABC’s decision last night to “indefinitely suspend” the comedian Jimmy Kimmel. The network’s move came after Kimmel said “the MAGA gang” was “desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them.” The Federal Communications Commission chairman threatened Disney, which owns ABC, with unspecified consequences if it did not “take action” against Kimmel. Pence argued that there’s a distinction between government censorship and private employment decisions, stating that “the First Amendment does not protect en

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