‘I’m Not Gonna Debate a Podcaster!’ Former Trump Chief of Staff Snaps During NewsNation Argument

Charlie Nash Oct 1st, 2025, 7:08 am

A NewsNation debate between former Trump chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and progressive podcast host Brian Tyler Cohen blew up on Tuesday, with Mulvaney snapping, “I’m not gonna debate a podcaster.”

After Mulvaney protested, “The government’s too big. It just is. We’re $37 trillion in debt,” Cohen responded, “When we talk about this idea that the government is too big, that there’s too much spending– I mean, Mick, it’s your party.”

“It’s Donald Trump that is adding trillions and trillions and trillions to the debt because they want to give themselves tax cuts,” he said. “The Republicans just passed a budget bill that would add $4 trillion to the

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