Michelle Obama got candid about her marriage to former President Barack Obama during a recent episode of her “IMO” podcast, sharing that with Sasha and Malia out of the house, she and Barack are facing new empty-nester challenges.

The former first lady didn’t hold back, opening up about everything from the quiet pauses at dinner to the irritating sounds she hears coming from across the table.

‘I Was Like, “Ugh, This Isn’t Even”’: Michelle Obama Says She ‘Couldn’t Stand’ Barack for 10 Years After the Birth of Their Daughters

During her conversation with couples therapist Dr. Orna Guralnik, Michelle, 61, reflected on how much their daily conversations revolved around their daughters living at home.

“We always have the kids to talk about, but not on a day-to-day basis,” she explained. “We

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