Democrat Andy Beshear has twice won election as governor of Kentucky — thriving in a state that has voted for Donald Trump three times.

Now Beshear is considering a run for president. He discussed what he believes Democrats need to change in an NPR all-platform interview, which included a video and special podcast episode, as well as reports on the Up First podcast and Morning Edition.

He has a lower national profile than another contender, California’s Gavin Newsom. He’s also less well known than some previous guests in the NPR interview series — JB Pritzker , Pete Buttigieg and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez . But he has a credential others lack: winning statewide in a very red state. (A red commonwealth, to be exact; it’s the Commonwealth of Kentucky.) In a party eager for new le

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