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"Hey, why don’t we start with a prayer?" Those are usually the words of a pastor when sitting down to discuss faith with someone. But they weren’t my words — they were Denzel Washington’s when we began an interview about his spiritual life. The conversation was part of a collection of 12 interviews I conducted for my forthcoming book, " Witness to Belief: Conversations on Faith and Meaning " (Church Publishing, October 2025). It may have seemed a small gesture, but it set the tone: the divine, not the human, is where to begin.

I started the book around the time I retired after more than 30 years of ministry as an Episcopal priest. We had spoken on the phone a few times before our first meeting, which began with a hearty,

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