Bunnie XO is the host of the “ Dumb Blonde ” celebrity podcast, a rock star wife and mother and, somehow, the owner of a cow sanctuary — but parenting teens, she says, is next-level.

“Having a teenager is not for the weak,” Bunnie XO, whose real name is Alisa DeFord, jokingly tells TODAY.com . “I tell everybody this: 13 is when the dark goes over their eyes and you’re just like, ‘Hello? Where are you?’”

She adds: “13 to 17, that is like a nightmare and then, I swear to God, right at 17 and a half, they become your best friend. Bailee is my best friend. I love her to death.”

Bunnie XO (L) poses with husband Jelly Roll and stepdaughter Bailee Ann in 2024. Francis Specke / Getty Images

Country singer Jelly Roll and Bunnie XO wed in 2016 and she is a stepmom to 17-year-old daughter

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