The countdown to the Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl has hit November in its usual place.

The Pac-12 side (Pac-12 Legacy for this final year) has a fair amount of clarity a month before the Nov. 7 selection date, while the ACC side of the equation is, in typical fashion, as muddled as one would expect from a 17-team conference.

Pac-12 Legacy: Arizona or Arizona State ?

While matters can change in the next four Saturdays, Sun Bowl executive director Bernie Olivas thinks Arizona, Arizona State or possibly Cal are good bets to represent Pac-12 Legacy in the final year of the current bowl contract.

Almost all bowl projections at this point have Arizona or Arizona State making the drive in to El Paso for the New Year's Eve game.

ACC: Jump ball

On the ACC side?

"Everybody's in a big bunch," Oliva

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