Jimmy Kimmel has a clear vision for how he’d like his late-night show to end. And does not involve pressure from the Trump administration.

Kimmel described what ending the show “on his terms” would look like during his appearance alongside his wife (and Jimmy Kimmel Live executive producer) Molly McNearney on the We Can Do Hard Things podcast.

Reflecting on their brief suspension from ABC over FCC threats following his comments about MAGA’s reaction to Charlie Kirk, Kimmel said, “If I’d not been allowed back on the air, I’d be a martyr. It’s not a terrible position to be in as a comedian,” but “it’s not the position I wanted to be in. And it’s also not the way I wanted the show.”

When ABC announced the suspension of Kimmel’s show in response to open threats from Donald Trump’s FCC Chai

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