When Andy Murray looks back at his career, there are certain matches that stay with him. One such match is his five-set battle with Roger Federer at the 2013 Australian Open semifinal. The intensity, the quality, and the pressure of facing Federer at his peak created a contest that still stands out today. And recently, Murray shared what it really took to pull off that win.

Just recently, on The Tennis Podcast , Catherine, David, and Matt had a wide-ranging chat with former world No. 1 and three-time Grand Slam champion Andy Murray. At one point, they asked him about that famous Australian Open and his rivalry with Federer specifically. What he said next gave a rare look into the strategy behind a victory.

“Yeah, so I watched him like loads when I was growing up,” Murray said. “I u

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