Future is one of the greatest rappers of all time. Anyone who argues otherwise lacks a fundamental understanding of him as an artist or even the genre as a whole. Other all-timers see the light in this too, from Jay-Z to Nas to Andre 3000. He’s one of the genre’s most forward thinking innovators, while simultaneously proving more than capable with formal rapping. Some people might not ever fully understand just how much the Dungeon Family alum means to hip-hop. However, Isaiah Rashad doesn’t have this problem. Instead, he looks at Future as one of the greatest of all time.

Recently, Rashad spoke to us at VICE from T-Mobile’s Club Magenta before performing at Lollapalooza. Of course, he touched on what we should expect from his upcoming album and the influences that inform the record. Towa

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