NPR's Scott Simon talks with Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin about the looming government shutdown, and his proposed bill that aims to end shutdowns for good.

SCOTT SIMON, HOST:

The U.S. government is hurtling toward a shutdown unless lawmakers can reach a spending deal before midnight Tuesday. House Republicans have passed a short-term extension. But in the Senate, Democrats are holding out for more than $1 trillion in spending, primarily on health care. Senator Ron Johnson, Republican of Wisconsin, joins us now from his home state. Senator, thanks so much for being with us.

RON JOHNSON: Good morning, Scott. Hope you're doing well.

SIMON: I hope you're doing well, sir. And let's ask about the possibility of a shutdown. Would you be willing to compromise with Democrats to keep health car

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