In a rare podcast appearance this week, Gov. Tina Kotek slammed U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem for making inflammatory remarks about Portland and continuing to push for federal troop deployment to Oregon following Noem’s visit to the area .

The podcast, hosted by California Gov. Gavin Newsom, featured Kotek and Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker. In it, Kotek doubled down on her message that the White House has persisted to push for military mobilization based on inaccurate information or outright lies.

“I thought we could have a, you know, reasonable conversation,” Kotek said, speaking of her mindset going into her Tuesday meeting with Noem when the cabinet member arrived in Portland. “But, you know, it’s hard to have a rational conversation with irrational people.”

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