Ego Nwodim and Heidi Gardner are getting “vulnerable” about everything that made SNL “such a challenging place” to work.

In an emotional conversation on Nwodim’s Thanks Dad podcast on Tuesday, Gardner became tearful as she recalled her time on the show for the first time after her exit.

“I am so honored that we worked so hard there, and then we also worked on our friendship so hard, which wasn’t hard, by the way,” Gardner said, “I just mean… we’re humans, so we have egos, we want things for ourselves, we want to succeed, and there weren’t a lot of times when we were able to succeed in the way we wanted at the exact same time.”

“I’m just being really vulnerable,” she added, noting that Nwodim “had the moment of the year” when Gardner’s “hero” Jack Black hosted the show in April—referri

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