If there's one thing you hear over and over as Black Friday and its sibling sale days get closer , it's that there are no "real deals" to be found anymore. While it's certainly true that the days of huddling outside of a big electronics retailer after stuffing yourself with, well, stuffing have fallen by the wayside, that doesn't mean you can't save quite a bit on Black Friday.

I've been closely involved with this particular shopping event for over a decade now, and while the rules have changed there are still plenty of ways to save. Here's what we've learned along the way, and the tools you can use to make sure you're saving as much as possible this year.

When does Black Friday start?

If you're reading this, Black Friday has already started in some sense. Some of the same discounts y

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