Harry Stebbings has a simple piece of advice for getting the attention of the world’s top leaders: learn to be “a stalker” when it comes to cold emailing.

He would know best. The 29-year-old VC founder emailed Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff 53 times to appear on his podcast, before accomplishing his goal in 2023. And since then, he’s admitted he spends 30 minutes a week toward “hustle time” and has roped most of his guests in with cold emails.

“It is absolutely nuts to me that you can find anyone’s email on the internet and just cold email them,” Stebbings said on an episode of The Biography Podcast.

“I’m pretty sure if you’re a good enough stalker, because you have to be a stalker, by the way—everyone should learn to be a really efficient SDR, but essentially stalker.”

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