Martha Stewart doesn’t want to be your typical retiree . The 84-year-old cooking mogul is up at 4 a.m., fitting in brain games, a homemade green juice and a pilates class, all before dawn.

“I have friends now, unfortunately—and I feel very bad for them—they have stopped changing,” she told Lipstick on the Rim podcast, adding that it’s the peril of quitting your job and kicking up your feet when you reach a ripe age.

“The people I admire most are what they’re calling now ‘super agers’ who are not retiring, who continue doing good things, who continue to evolve… that’s what I’m going after.”

Although for many, the benefit of not having a 9-to-5 is being able to wake up whenever, Stewart insists her pre-dawn wake-up is “the secret for everybody who wants to get a lot done in the day”

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